Someone posted an interesting question about ANTM in the "comments" section. What follows is the text of the question and my ridiculously lengthy and digressive answer. Proceed at your own risk.
"Ok so I noticed that the first season of ANTM, a lot of the interviews with you and Adrianne had very specific looks -- you with the sunglasses on your head and the strung out messy hair, A. with the bandanna, and you were both talking about things that happened pretty late in the competition. BUT! The show used those interviews in earlier episodes, too; i.e. from my pov, it looked like you were talking about week 2 stuff, but your hair/makeup/clothes indicate that at that point, it was week 9. The question: do you know if mussing up chronology this way is common in reality series, or did ANTM v.1 just not know what it was doing and scrambled to get your reflections near the end?"
As you've probably gathered from watching ANTM or other reality shows, there are two common ways for producers to get first-person narration from contestants about events in a show: the first is the self-recorded "confessional booth;" the second is taped one-on-one interviews with the contestant, edited so the contestant appears as a "talking head."
A quick aside about the confessional booth: it was a little room with a pre-set video camera and a separate camera for the monitors in the upstairs production offices. On ANTM, every contestant was required to film herself in the confessional room for a minimum of five minutes per day. The producers said, "Even if you just go in there and stare at the camera in silence, you must stay for five minutes." I know that Robin Manning (for one) did exactly that every single day, but for me it was difficult to sit in the room in silence when I knew the camera was rolling and a bunch of people were watching me on the monitors. The monitors made it impossible to just escape into the booth and slouch against the wall for awhile: if I took more than a few seconds to turn on the camera, or leaned too far off-center, a producer would materialize outside the door and reprimand me. Because the confessional room was the only private place in the house (even the bathrooms were within limits for cameramen), AND it was soundproof, I was usually pretty happy to take my turn in there and eventually became quite comfortable with staring into the camera, jabbering away (ahem).
The taped interviews were the source of most of the show's narration. Every four days (always the day before an elimination session), each contestant in turn was separated from the pack and interrogated about all of the "week"'s events as well as opinions on the other girls, the coming elimination, and whatever sundry topics the producers thought might be relevant to the story arcs in the final edit. Incidentally, these interviews were a reliable means for me to predict the final show's subplots, as well as one of the major ways in which the production crew manipulated the contestants. I remember one interviewer asking me question after question about Nicole Panattoni and her relationship with her boyfriend. I didn't have a damn clue about it, but the interviewer pressed so much that, upon finishing the session, I mentioned to Nicole, "Is something going on with your boyfriend, because I think they're trying to make that a subplot in the show." She immediately knew what I was referring to (a fight she'd had with her boyfriend over the phone that no one else saw until it was aired) and frantically asked every girl who hadn't yet done the interview to decline to comment on the situation. Confidential to ANTM producers: If you haven't already, I would suggest forbidding future contestants from discussing their interviews with one another.
The natural structure of a conversation or interview is incongruous with the narrative phrases we uttered on the show: we were asked to provide answers in "complete sentences" that included the interviewer's question. In this way, the producers were able to record usable audio snippets and also subtly influence the content of our answers. Sometimes, I was able to catch myself before I parroted something that wasn't exactly true, but more often than not realized too late that a statement such as "I was shocked when John the Trainer told Tessa to tone up" wasn't something I would say under normal circumstances. Incidentally, that's not a real example; though I'm sure they exist, I can't think of one. If you're listening for it when you watch the show, the producer's words can often be detected in a contestant's narration (mine included).
Another place I got into trouble in the interviews was with the questions that weren't so leading- questions more like, "What do you think of John the Trainer" instead of, "Were you shocked when John the Trainer told Tessa to tone up?" I was crippled by conceit and the perception that the interview was an epic battle of wits in which my ability to provide quick, complete (structurally), and correct (gramatically) replies was on trial, so I didn't take any time to choose my words carefully. I also loved to catch the cameraman suppressing a snigger at something I'd said. I was (am) also arrogant and held (hold) a low opinion of most of the show's activities and personalities. A combination of these circumstances- the rapid-fire interview pace I set for myself, personality flaws, and the objective and subjective stupidity of some of the stuff I was commenting on- meant that the bulk of my narration soundbytes were derogatory in nature. From many, many hours of derogatory comments by me, the producers were able to air a selection of real doozies that had even MY jaw dropping when I watched the show.
Now I can actually answer your question, anonymous poster. The inconsistencies you noticed in the show were indeed the result of the producers asking questions in later interviews that pertained to events that had happened weeks earlier. This is almost certainly because, once the first few episodes' story arcs were cemented and editing was underway, the crew realized they had either neglected to ask pertinent questions in their original interviews, or everyone's soundbyte was unusable. During the third-to-last week of filming, I remember, Tyra was conspicuously absent for several days and a producer told us that she was in LA overseeing the editing of the first couple of ANTM eps. When you see me or Adrianne in a later episode rocking an interview outfit that you remember from earlier in the show, it means that segments of the later interview were used to narrate the earlier shows in which narration gaps existed. I also believe I remember noticing a snippet of me that was taped early and aired later (if I'm correct it was the one with the wild hair, which was taped after the photo shoot from Ep#2).
As to whether this phenomenon is unique to ANTM, well, I would guess that you're correct: it's a result of poor planning and inexperience making this type of show. I bet if you watched other reality shows very carefully, you could detect other inconsistencies like this, but they would be less frequent and less obvious than those on ANTM. Executive producer Ken Mok does have other reality shows on his c.v. (Making the Band; a wrestling show), but I don't think he's a reality-show-makin' machine like, say, the producers of The Real World. Also, I think that the prominence and plot-relevance of hairstyling, makeup, and wardrobe on the ANTM contestants make this kind of error more noticeable to the viewer, whereas on a wrestling reality show, hairstyles and outfits would blend into the background.
Another topic that may be relevant to your paper, anonymous poster, is the sheer volume of recorded matter that is edited down in the manufacture of a reality show like ANTM. When ANTM began taping with ten contestants, it was common for THREE camera crews at a time to be rolling throughout the "penthouse." During downtime, we typically weren't saying or doing much of anything, and yet the crews didn't stop rolling from several minutes before we woke up until bedtime (or after bedtime, as I've mentioned before: sometimes, we would fall asleep with the cameras in our faces and wake up in the night to the gentle touch of an audio dude peeling back our pajamas to remove the microphone waist strap). When something was happening- runway lessons, an elimination session- it would happen in a disorganized and unwieldy manner: Tyra would flub her lines, a light would pop out, an ambulance would go by and pollute the audio track, someone would realize the music that J Alexander was playing was copyrighted...and still the cameras never stopped. I was actually surprised, with so much stopping and starting of the action, that the show gave as much of an illusion of continuity as it did. I think that this perception of temporal continuity is aided as much by our own minds as it is by the editors of the TV show we're watching. An error has to be really egregious- a wacky bandanna from the early in the show popping up during Adrianne's narrations in the last episode, for example- for us to notice it.
I'm reminded of an example from the first episode: the first elimination session, in which Tessa "got the boots," took more than six hours to film. As Tyra congratulated whomever (Giselle?) and gave her condolences to Tessa, it was four o' clock in fucking morning. Lighting snafus, copyreading errors (oh, the copyreading errors), disorganization in the proceedings, and countless other production flaws meant that an eternity intervened between the time we were shown filing into the judging chamber and Tessa packing her suitcases at the end of the show- but this was edited to five minutes of airtime. While watching the episode, I expected a glaring contrast between the freshly-made-up contestants at the beginning of the scene and the wilted and crabby girls at the end, but even though I was looking for it, I couldn't detect any discontinuity.
Anyway, anonymous poster, I hope you can find a useful quotation or two somewhere. Consider posting some or all of your finished paper in my livejournal when you're finished with it!
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December 11 2004, 09:42:54 UTC 7 years ago
Thanks for the insight into the show and keep posting pictures of all the wackiness overseas so I can ROFL the night away.
December 11 2004, 11:26:34 UTC 7 years ago
Miss Takes
I figured something like this was going on. There were several instances where Tyra would be talking and there would be a noticeable change in the audio accompanied by a video cut to a shot where you couldn't see her speaking, i.e. the back of her head or your faces. I've noticed the same thing on Heidi Klum's ANTM rip-off -with-a-twist "Project Runway," which has young unknown designers battling it out creating fashions instead of wearing them. The distinct change in audio always makes me think of the cuss-free versions of movies shown on broadcast TV. "She kicked me in the flippin' gizzard!"
Chuck
May 27 2006, 00:41:11 UTC 6 years ago
Re: Miss Takes
lmfao.i always notice the tyra/audio inconsistencies all the time! she's not very good at reading over them. it's rather silly. >)
Anonymous
December 11 2004, 14:13:47 UTC 7 years ago
Oh, how you rock!
Hilarous AND educational! Reading your blog is such a treat. Reading it has been the highlight of my day lately. This morning someone had stolen our newspaper, so I sulikily surfed the net instead. But I got a great piece of reading to my morning coffee thanks to you! I crack up imagining Tyra squinting at the camera and going off in an incoherent offscript rant whith the crew is collectively sighing.Have a nice day, Elyse, and thank you for a great morning read.
From
La Norvègienne
who is a bit hung over today. My HB defended his thesis yesterday, so we were out celebrating. During the festive evening out, the realization that he's finally got his degree sloshed over my good old HB occasionally and he would go: "Oh my god, I can't believe I actually MADE it". To which I replied with drunk enthusiasm every time: "Yes, you made it! You ARE America's next top model!"
November 25 2007, 00:19:09 UTC 4 years ago
Re: Oh, how you rock!
"Yes, you made it! You ARE America's next top model!"lmaooo
December 11 2004, 14:38:50 UTC 7 years ago
Speaking of how the show is edited, you wouldn't believe the things they are censoring out with blurry-bits this time. Not just Janice's naughty bits when she proves she's naked under the table, or whatsername's crack when she mooned the judges, but things like cigarettes. And in this week's episode, when Ann was sent home, she was wearing a thin tight shirt and they blurred out her nipples, not because the shirt was transparent but just because they were standing up a bit too prominently. I ask you, what's the point of watching a show about shallow young women striving to look good if you can't stare at their nipples?
Anonymous
December 11 2004, 19:26:58 UTC 7 years ago
It's not the nipples
It's the areolas. Ann has fairly dark ones, and it apparently took the censors a few episodes to notice all the areolage that's been displayed by the perpetual thin white wifebeaters and tank tops on her and some of the others.Many rather more blatant shots of erect nipples have gone by unblurred, both on Ann and others (saggy Ya Ya in particular).
The same holds true for blurring the cigs. The censors miss almost as many as they catch.
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Anonymous
December 11 2004, 18:57:51 UTC 7 years ago
Heh
Your other anonymous poster is probably hyperventilating right now with excitement.Now I understand how this season's boardrooms on The Apprentice can take four or five hours to tape. Trump doesn't read copy any better than "Miss Banks." You could see her eyes going back and forth wildly during this week's S3 episode's "spontaneous" critique of all the remaining losers, reading those cue cards for all she was worth. That talk show of hers is going to be as ugly as Sharon Osbourne's was.
The sad thing about ANTM is how the producers are getting worse over time, not better. Your season was far better shot and edited than the current one, where the editing seams and bad camera work are everywhere. Then there's all the obvious posthumously shot interviews and relegation of any likable confessionals to the web extras section.
December 11 2004, 20:05:16 UTC 7 years ago
So much for my hunch you'd be burned out on discussing ANTM
Damn, girl, you practically wrote anonymous poster's term paper for anonymous poster! This entry was long enough to merit its own set of Cliffs Notes, but my eyes didn't glaze over once. I've been making a concerted effort not to post the standard "you're so awesome, Elyse" comments here, but fuck it -- you are a seriously great writer. I have a sudden urge to hear the airport Starbucks table story in all its unabridged glory. (Yeah, I know it's like asking Billy Joel to play "Piano Man" for the zillionth time, but never having heard it makes me feel terribly out of the loop).Unfortunately, the almighty Tyra is certain to smite you for outing her on the flubbing o' lines. Watch out for falling pianos and such.
Anonymous
December 12 2004, 17:44:58 UTC 7 years ago
Re: So much for my hunch you'd be burned out on discussing ANTM
probably not, miss ty-ger's busy trying on ophra's shoes now, hehehehhe...December 11 2004, 20:14:12 UTC 7 years ago
December 11 2004, 20:26:19 UTC 7 years ago
I was wondering about this exact same subject a few days ago. Thanks for postin' this--it really cleared things up. ^_^ I can't believe how un-real
somemost reality shows are. But meh, anything for ratings, I guess. o_o;;Anonymous
December 11 2004, 22:34:39 UTC 7 years ago
Your insight on the inner-workings of ANTM is much appreciated, especially since I know most of those people--the hosts, not "the girls"--and to hear your take is priceless.
Anonymous
December 12 2004, 00:59:57 UTC 7 years ago
Tyra mess up????!!!!!!!
Thanks for the explanation, Elyse. I have come to the conclusion that ANTM is crap. It's more like being America's Next Has-Been Model for a second. Then you get to fade to obscurity. So much for Tyra caring about her "girls."I would never believe that the "Tyrant" (I saw this on a website and I laughed so hard) would have trouble with anything. I mean, just look at the way she critiques the "girls" this season. Anyway, I'm assuming you haven't tuned in, but it's been pretty bad this season. The scripted lines, the editing of girls, etc. No grammy for Miss Banks! That is all... You must now exit the loft.December 12 2004, 17:02:14 UTC 7 years ago
I was so sure you would win... But with the insults you spewed on a regular basis, I had a feeling it wouldn't happen. :P Still, though you and Adrianne were the only source of enertainment for me... I was upset at Adrianne for beating you. >< Do you still keep in contact?
I'm proud of you for becoming a model anyway. No one who wins a reality show gets far, so losing it was probably best for you.
Anyway, I have said all I wanted to say to you and probably won't bother you again. Though answers to my qestions would be appreciated, I wouldn't blame you for not bothering.
December 12 2004, 17:34:57 UTC 7 years ago
December 12 2004, 18:02:40 UTC 7 years ago
Hi Elyse ^___^
I finally decided to register on this livejournel thingy...ahh. See, you have quite an influence on people who admire you...lol. Don't get all big headed now, but you're too self-deprecating to take yourself too seriously....:) Well Elyse, your journal has been a welcome respite from my sucky days and it's been a pleasure to read and find out what you've been up to these days. As others have mentioned, you have a sharp wit and even sharper mind. That's what I like best about you...your natural curiousity about anything and everything, from Japanese street fashion to Malay snack foods. Gotta love you for that! That you have an amazing adaptability to new people and places I am not surprised to find out from reading your journal. I guess I was drawn to you from watching ANTM first because of your unique doe-eyed beauty, then after your articulate comments and intelligence and personality shone throughout the episodes you became even more irrisitably adorable to me. And I'm no lesbian, btw. lol. I think you've got to be one of the most interesting reality tv contestents to appear on TV. Tyra Banks should thank you for appearing on the first cycle, because I am utterly convinced that without you on the show, ANTM would not this famous worldwide and there might not even have been a second cycle (which probably isn't a bad thing looking at how horribly the third cycle is doing. The show keeps getting worse every cycle).Anonymous
December 12 2004, 18:07:59 UTC 7 years ago
The paper, in toto
http://www.geocities.com/redhalcyon/docs/rSilly me, I turned it in before I thought to check back here -- sorry! Being a graduate student will make you dumb like this. Still, I will likely be writing on this subject (represented chronology and all things temporal) again in the future, so your comments are, how you say, invaluable and awesome, and so they WILL BE recognized by academia.
I ended up using Survivor as my primary example, and in the end, you came to the same conclusion that I roughly did (e.g. "I think that this perception of temporal continuity is aided as much by our own minds as it is by the editors of the TV show we're watching." SPOT ON. I wish I made this point as explicitly as you did.)
Anyone's free to read it (you'll see my name! Begone, anonymity!), but there's quite a bit of theory involved, there wasn't a whole lot of room to use examples, and the paper isn't very funny. I don't know why humor in a term paper is important to me right now, but it is.
Elyse, you rock out with your etc. Thanks!
Anonymous
December 12 2004, 21:08:06 UTC 7 years ago
another "friend"
Most "reality" shows bug me or don't hold my attention for very long, but I very reliably tuned into the first ANTM season because the interaction between the contestants was so interesting. Who would have guessed that religion would play such a divisive role in household of aspiring models? It was like a microcosmic United States. I have to wonder, though, after reading your post if the "holy wars" were emphasized considerably through editing or if there really was that much tension.This season they have really been playing up the not-really-all-that-interesting falling out between two of the girls (Ann and Eva). I also wonder how much that has been manipulated into existence.
But anyway, thank you for all of the very interesting journal entries...
January 6 2008, 21:18:35 UTC 4 years ago
Re: another "friend"
i wish you would have answered this question! very interesting... :)December 13 2004, 02:17:17 UTC 7 years ago
And this is probably why. You are sharply insightful and very good about critiquing even things that you were very much embroiled in.
So, yeah. Squee.
December 13 2004, 20:16:10 UTC 7 years ago
Question...
If this has been answered, ignore. I'll probably find it eventually. One of the things that struck me in the first episode was a brief clip of you on the phone which gave the impression that it was The Call, i.e. "You've been selected blah blah...". I've seen similar clips from the current cycle. Do they send a crew to the winners' homes to videotape the call? Is it recreated for 'effect'? Or am I missing something here? This keeps me up nights, dammit. Heh.December 14 2004, 16:21:59 UTC 7 years ago
Re: Question...
This was accomplished by a producer calling and asking boyfriend Marty to get a video camera and record me answering an "important phone call coming in about 30 minutes." He complied, and we spent a good part of the thirty minutes puzzling, then making the connection to the "Open Casting Call" we had attended several weeks before. The "important phone call," you guessed it, was Tyra- this was the moment I became aware that she was involved in the whole thing. When filming began in Los Angeles, the contestants turned over their tapes to the production staff.Later, we were also asked to tape interviews with family members regarding their thoughts and feelings about our selection for the show. I thought mine was pretty damn funny and regret that it never made it to air. It featured my dad going into an erotic trance whilst describing the "creaminess" of Tyra Banks. Shudder.
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December 17 2004, 20:20:04 UTC 7 years ago
I was wondering though, how did you get into modeling? I thought that you were going to continue with your schooling? And do you have any words for others who might want to get into the industry?
Hope you're enjoying yourself! :D
Tracey
June 27 2010, 04:57:37 UTC 1 year ago
Anonymous
April 26 2005, 11:30:37 UTC 7 years ago
yahh..i think that u r gonna continue with ur medic school....but thx god u've make it to the modelling world!
-faizaru-
http://faizaru.blogdrive.com
Anonymous
October 29 2005, 22:54:46 UTC 6 years ago
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You are just too cool!One interest journal about antm!
Learned a lot about this shoW!
Anonymous
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Anonymous
March 17 2007, 02:04:36 UTC 5 years ago
You were the best
Dear Elyse,This is a very late comment considering, but after laughing along with oh so many hilarious "cycles" I have to say that you were really the only true beauty to grace the screens of this misadventure of Tyras.
I was a decently successful male model from 96-2001 and like you I was pursuing my degree in Chemistry/Biology. I totally related to your early expletives and all things considered, who cares if editing made you sound so uppity and all. Sharing ones knowledge when asked a question about biology from judges shouldn't be penalized just because it went over the judges heads.
Anyhoo, you rock and congratulations on all your sucesses since the show.
-JW
Anonymous
July 2 2007, 07:21:31 UTC 4 years ago
interesting antm insights
i really enjoy reading your insights to the whole antm escapade. i wonder if you will consider writing more behind-the-scenes entries in the future (or you may already have because i am back reading) or hey, you could even write a tell-all book. now that would be a must-read.soleil
November 10 2007, 05:23:23 UTC 4 years ago
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